Land Surveyor Forum

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• Land Surveyor

  RAYMOND KINGSLY February 22, 2016 at 2:46pm

  BILLY I GOT SOMETHING AFTER SOME RESEARCH CHECK IT OUT

  Assuming that what you mean is "What is the standard error of pointing the telescope of a good quality total station or theodolite at a well-defined target in sharp contrast?", the answer is that it depends mainly upon the magnification of the telescope. If you were unable to point a first-order theodolite at a target with a standard error of point well under +/-1", then the problem was probably as much with the target as with the observer.
  Billy I got something after some research check it out
   The usual empirically derived values for the standard error of point are:
  
  Distant targets in poor contrast: 20"/M, where M = Telescope magnification
  
  Close range targets in good contrast : 12"/M
  
  So, for a 30X telescope the pointing uncertainty would be expected to fall in the range between +/-0.40" and +/-0.65". Naturally, much worse results can be obtained under adverse conditions.
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    Billy Brooks > RAYMOND KINGSLY February 22, 2016 at 5:47pm

    Hello Raymond, All this  plays into  this .  But your Instru. can be set, or a Data  Coll. on average's of it's readings exam.  most's are 1 shot select,  3 shot avg. select,, the 3 shot avg. would  be a exam. of this, some have more options to select ,  also you angles can be taken and added many different ways then divide for a avg. your sightings can be arrange in direct to indirect,  there many different versions of this closure's  Your instu., no matter  how good the calibration is contains a small error, that why  you reverse your sighting , if you setup and  bs a point, make sure theses are set at the same dist. flip your barrel and mark a point like on a batter board , then reverse scope back sight the same point flip the barrel and mark another point beside the first one, this is the error in your instru. If they are the same that is good,   divide this dists. from these marks and mark it , this is the true line 180 degrees of your instru. . the distance that you have chosen  like , 200,500,1000. feet or meters,  will reflect the error found  on each one ,this is also a good way to set true  line on a line. now this goes back to why you take multiplies readings, then they are avg,to correct the values of the sum because every dist. shot is not the same, and your instru. angles can be multiply in one directions that good, but it is better to multiply forward and reverse these sums will add up to your pointing precision value.  I hope this help's you  and  anyone with this ?.
    • Land Surveyor

      RAYMOND KINGSLY > Billy Brooks February 23, 2016 at 2:54pm

      thanks billy ....I will check it ......
    • Land Surveyor

      RAYMOND KINGSLY > Billy Brooks February 23, 2016 at 2:52pm

      thanks billy ....I got it....
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  Billy Brooks February 21, 2016 at 6:08pm

  Hi Raymond, The only way this could be used in a total station is in your settings, on how many winding's you have set on your angle's, then it will average it to one, and how many shot's are set for it to take , to average it to one . this can also be found in most data collectors config. or settings. This is all i can think of in reference  to a total station, but i have never seen this label on any program or setting. If you find one please let me know.

  Raymond keep them a coming    still a good ?

  billy
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    Jaybird > Billy Brooks February 21, 2016 at 6:40pm

    great stuff Billy!  Nice assist!
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      Billy Brooks > Jaybird February 21, 2016 at 7:08pm

      Thanks ,  Survenator and Justin. and Raymond for this ? This is also a ? given on many surveying test. Point Precision ,  and does accuracy and precision mean the same thing.  True or false

      Billy
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  Billy Brooks February 21, 2016 at 5:33pm

  Hi Raymond,  You will not find this in or on any thing in your total Station.If you do please let me know.This will be a learning experience to me,this is not a program or setting in the gun , this is used in terminology, used in surveying.If it is not can someone tell were it is. And thank you  again my Friend.I hope this helps Raymond ....

  billy
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  Billy Brooks February 21, 2016 at 5:04pm

  Hi Raymond, Yes it is good that Survenator to point out that   Accuracy and Precision are not the same.One defines the other,  in this case Precision defines the Sum.  To define the Accuracy of the Pointing.But keep in mind they are not the same. I hope this help anyone with this ? Also some more,   Running multiplies turn's with level run , multiplies rod face readings (first order levels) the list goes on. for this terminology . still good ? Raymond.

  Billy
• Survey Legend

  ⚡Survenator⌁ February 21, 2016 at 3:48pm

  Great explanation Billy!  Also Take a look at this and the attached docs... hope this helps..