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I am looking for surveyors interested in speaking at an October 14-15 Conference in San Antonio .Submission deadline is June 10.

    Specifically, I hope to find someone able to explain to a non-surveyor group (they are professors of Chinese culture and history)the following:

1. Plats in traditional agricultural societies pre-computer. How landmarks were created and marked, how trees were used, and what the plat might look like.

2. Aquaculture. What a plat for an aquacultural area would look like.

3. Land use evolution: how untouched land evolves from rough to agricultural and how that would evolve on plats.

    The argument I am proposing is that the bronze depicted is an orchard with "dog's tooth" irrigation and green manure legume plantings in the mould board plow spiral planting pattern.

    I go on to propose that by examining Chinese bronzes closely we understand the relationship and evolution of early Chinese society from aquacultural to agricultural to elite use of lands.

   If you are interested in these subjects please feel free to contact me directly at

[email protected]

    If you are interested and unable to participate I am still eager to hear your observations.

Bruce Jones

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  • Yes, what a fascinating subject. I can't contribute - although that is because of my own ignorance on the subject rather than any lack of fascination. Would love to see a link to information on this topic. 

    rScotty,   retired civil eng. & surveyor

    • Not a Surveyor

       I am rather clumsy with some of the technologies of putting a photo on this site. If the response does not offer the photo, please let me know and I can e-mail you a photo.I am arguing the point that the bronze pictured below depicts an orchard. The idea is that the planting diagram is the same as that used for orchards so that their canopies do not compete and they can have better production. The irrigation pattern running through it is the familiar “hound’s tooth” pattern in ancient China. The spiral patterns depict green manure vegetables planted in the spiral planting used with the mould-board plow.
          An important reason for my ideas on this is that many of these were made, no two alike.
           The experts tell us it is just a random decorative pattern and the spirals are clouds.
          In my mind it makes a lot more sense that these would be land grants. In ancient China only the king could make bronze. And the king was the only one who could grant land.
          Please look at this and let me know your ideas.
          There is a lot more on this but this is the easiest to get a quick handle on.
      Best regards,
      Bruce Jones





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      Bruce Jones

      817- 640-1260
      cell: 817-879-8568

      • GEO Ambassador

        Very interesting topic.  I added your image to the post above for you.. If no other surveyors are interested in helping with the topic, I am willing to do a bit of research to help...

  • Survey Legend

    Sounds like an awesome topic....I am no longer a land surveyor but I have done a lot of research in this topic for school..Let's see who else responds

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