ALTA Surveys

I have a client requesting an ALTA of only a portion of property. They are interested in purchasing 1 building on a parcel that's 2 acres and contains 4 buildings. I would think we would have to survey the entire property.

Has anyone run across this scenario??

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  • Land Surveyor
    I believe the "competence" reply is a little uncalled for. He is simply asking for advice in a strange situation. Let's try to be a little more helpful.

    Phil, just talk it over with your client and the title company. You will need to include the boundary, otherwise I am not sure how they would describe the property in the title commitment, but as to the specifics the standards make it clear there are unusual circumstances that will just need to be agreed upon by all parties: "Certain properties or interests in real properties may present issues outside those normally encountered on an ALTA/NSPS Land Title Survey (e.g., marinas, campgrounds, trailer parks; easements, leases, other non-fee simple interests). The scope of work related to surveys of such properties or interests in real properties should be discussed with the client, lender, and insurer; and agreed upon in writing prior to commencing work on the survey." Happy Surveying!
    • Land Surveyor

      My assessment of this situation was spot on. Why isn’t this unregistered individual asking the registered land surveyor he works for this question instead of exposing his ignorance in this forum? Adding & abetting an unlicensed person is a crime! 

      • Land Surveyor
        I would like to point out that you (Mike Davis), in my opinion, are in violation of the member guidelines and terms of service by stating such defematory statements as "exposing his ignorance" and lieing that by giving him suggestions is "Adding & abetting" a crime.

        As Survenator correctly stated we aren't here to throw stones. I would kindly suggest being a little more friendly.


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      • Survey Legend

        Let's everyone try to be helpful and not throw stones.  We are here to help one another and become better at what we do. The author is either a  licensed surveyor or works for one, right Phil?. I can see everyone's point.  Everyone have a nice weekend!

    • Good answer Robert. May also add to download the new Alta rules.

      Thanks

  • Land Surveyor

    Of course you shall perform a Boundary on the entire parent tract. By asking this question you appear to have not performed any ALTA/NSPS Surveys. If this is so, please direct your attention to:

    §2505. Services

    A. Licensees shall perform services only in the area of

    their competence.

    B. Licensees shall undertake assignments only when

    qualified by education or experience in the specific technical

    fields of engineering or land surveying involved.

    C. Licensees shall not affix their signatures or seals to

    any plans or documents dealing with subject matters in

    which they lack competence, nor to any such plan or

    document not prepared under their responsible charge.

     AUTHORITY NOTE: Promulgated in accordance with R.S. 37:688.

    HISTORICAL NOTE: Promulgated by the Department of

    Transportation and Development, Board of Registration for

    Professional Engineers and Land Surveyors, LR 7:648 (December

    1981), amended by the Department of Transportation and

    Development, Professional Engineering and Land Surveying

    Board, LR 27:1037 (July 2001), LR 30:1721 … 

  • For one, an Alta is for conveyance of land using Title Insurance in which you would have to survey all the land described in the Title Commitment. If they only want a part surveyed, than it would be a subdivision and that changes depending as to which state, city or county you are surveying it. 

  • Land Surveyor
    Hello sir, for my suggestion for your safety in our profession you will conduct first boundary survey and aftr that take an asbuilt of all the structures if it is inside of the lot or out then thats the time you get the one requested area it is also for your future reference data if happend that the side building will ask also for survey
  • Is it a commercial condo?
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