Its all flat and wide open on paper.

I'm working on 8 title lots on the same street,(easy shit) a construction site that sucks, and if i have the time a topo in the middle of nowhere. Yes, my boss wants me in three places at once. Surveying is not the type of job you want to rush but for some unknown reason office guys talk like you're out there playin tiddly winks. All i can say is these assholes must think its all flat and wide open like it is on paper. ITS NOT! So if you are an office tech or an RPLS who doesn't go in the field please go out in the field once in while. Thanx.

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  • Awesome article Mr. Warner! Do you mind if I copy and post at my firm? Everyone should read this.

  • Land Surveyor

    You might want to read this article I authored for the ACSM Bulletin last year, regarding mentoring. 

    SDW

    https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1201223264?profile=original
  • If I could give my .02......

    Our incredible career choice has a huge problem. State of the art technology with baby boomer execution. No offense to the men who have brought us to where we are but our field needs a serious over haul. 

    As Robert Surrat stated its really frustrating to have someone that enjoys controlled temperatures, a cushy seat and controlled environment riding you as if you aren't WALKING, HIKING, LIFTING, CHOPPING, LOCATING, STAKING, CALCULATING, MEASURING, SEARCHING AND SWEATING as it is.

    On the other hand the field guy has no idea what its like to have to "answer the phone and offer my advice to potential clients, do the necessary research to provide an accurate cost estimate for the work, do the fieldwork in hills 1000 feet high, get back to the office, download the raw data, draft the map myself, sign it, seal it, and if I am over the budget, there is nobody to blame but me." like Scott Warner stated.

    Truth be told the office and field surveyors need to stop treating the work load like its the Yankees against the Rebels. We are all on the same team and if the PLS makes a mistake that costs millions, everyone loses. If you have a field guy who isn't honest everyone loses.

     

    We need to come together and realize we are approaching the problem with an outdated mindset. If the field guy actually worked in the office for let's say a week he would get a COMPLETE understanding of the background work. If that office guy had to march through 2' deep water and try to set up a tripod on soft ground that bounces for a week then he would have a better understanding of how to bid jobs carefully.

    We need to take the initiative and change the game. It's our jobs at stake.... Right???

  • Land Surveyor

    Robert, I understand your frustration, and I would appreciate what you do more without the profanity.  Now, what if you were in my situation:  I answer the phone and offer my advice to potential clients, do the necessary research to provide an accurate cost estimate for the work, do the fieldwork in hills 1000 feet high, get back to the office, download the raw data, draft the map myself, sign it, seal it, and if I am over the budget, there is nobody to blame but me.  

  • Land Surveyor

    agreed

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