Hey guys!

My work area as you see below image, contains rural buildings, concreted and none concreted streets, hills, etc, there is needed surveying for rebuilding and renewing the area, so how you suggest survey methods and procedures as well points taking order( in square order, EX: points after every 2 meters) or points at every structures angle and land up and down locations?

any suggestion for better result and good contour line showing?

This Content Originally Published by a land surveyor to Land Surveyors United Network

Views: 658

See Your Saved Posts Timeline

☇ Reply to this

Replies to This Discussion

Wow, that looks like a real headache! I would suggest proceeding with a drone lidar survey, if in your country flying a drone over a populated area is allowed.

From the resulting point cloud, you should be able to get most of the information you need. You may then integrate with a traditional survey in the few areas that couldn't be covered by the lidar.

If all you have is a total station then lots of shots with good description or code on each shot. But I would recommend using a laser scanner and scanning targets or paddle targets on Survey Control network.


There is no more equipment than a total station (leica TS 11 and a handy GPS), and as I said the propose of this survey is to rebuilt the area( Ex. concrete the unpaved streets, make green area where is no buildings, or in common this survey is to get them full information about area topographic as well all elements by their exact locations), could you suggest me the best shot order or method?  

 The methods to be used is so diverse as the diverse "micro-areas" or sectors could be found there. to my first impression, you could combine an scanner with direct method due to the density of the buildings. and in that area where the distance between buildings is greater, could be used aerial photogrametry  with kind of drone or so. naked eye looks that the direct methods would be the important part of the project.


The first question I will ask is what will this survey be used for?

Hi  Kevin D. Allen 

There is no more equipment than a total station (leica TS 11 and a handy GPS), and as I said the propose of this survey is to rebuilt the area( Ex. concrete the unpaved streets, make green area where is no buildings, or in common this survey is to get them full information about topographic as well all elements by their exact locations) 

Will you have to measure all the houses?

This will be complicated with a total station.

Hi Mohammad Salem

This is how i will do the Survey.

1. Take systematic pictures of the area from high points like the one you uploaded from different angles to use as site sketch and print them out.

2. Create codes in the total station covering all the features in the site area.

3. Start at one end of the site area moving systematically e.g with streets and capture all the features you can measure and tick them off on your site sketch.

4. It is advisable that that you set up at a high point to increase the number of points you can measure from one station.

5. Use your measuring tape. If you can only see three corners of a house you can measure the fourth with a measuring tape from two of the corners you picked up with your Total station instead of doing a new set up its faster and economical.

6. Run lines. If the houses in a street have one boundary wall pick up the corners of the wall and use it as a reference line to measure the inside structures with measuring tape.

7. Pick up enough points to define the topography of the area and the services ( water, sewer and electricity).

8. It will be much quicker if you have two staff man.

9. Brace your self for long days.

Hi  Jesaya Hakanyome 

Thanks so much, greet idea, if you share your suggestion on how to take points order at this kind of area, Ex: measure after how many longs(meters) or in which kind of order, Ex: in areas where the houses not existing and have very up and down.

Dear Mohammad,

I agree with Kevin. The first question is a detailed analisys of the design requests.

You say "renewing", but ... of what? Part of existing buildings has to be destroyed and rebuild, or only a conservative restoration? Are You interested also/only in the streets maintenance/modification? There are a underground plant (water, drain, energy, gas ...) and the new project must consider it? And so more ....

Imho, before You has to put a lot of questions to the project team,.... after, the answers will suggest You what is the best equipment to use.

Very fascinating site ... Bye!

Carlo Alberto


Hi,  Carlo Alberto Birocco 

No part of area are to be destroyed, but it only a conservative restoration, design team want a detailed topographic map of the area as well all the objects located there like trees, manholes, electric poles, structures and more...

Hi Guys,

I totally agree with Jesaya comment and I think that is actually the best way forward.

In addition, regarding order, You will have to decide how you want to action it.

1. Decide where you will position your camera to take several shots ensuring you do over lap them as well so that you can then produce one big topography layout of everything side by side.

2. Decide if you will take the shots along the x-axis first and when you are done, you then start from the y-axis covering all the parts you have done on your x-axis to get the over lapping properly.

3. Write down the order in your note and the shot numbers as displayed in your camera...Good quality camera with great zoom capability.

4. After compiling all the pictures, then you will then start your survey from one corner (X direction or Y direction) as seen on your compiled picture.

5. Each survey must have a code to identify what you have surveyed...not just numbers but such as Building 001, 002, 003 in any manner you decide...I hope you do have a reflectorless Kit.

6. from all you data, you can then create a topo of all...try this link...

Create a TopoMap by using Excel and AutoCAD! (English)

Export X,Y,Z co-ordinates from AutoCAD to Excel [English]

How to import X,Y co-ordinates from Excel to AutoCAD! (English)

7. In your Survey, decide if you will take shot at centre of roof, edge of roof, roof line on X,Y axis and keep to that order.

8. Create an excel list of all your data and start the long journey of moving these from the excel to Autocad

From here, the rest will be history

Hope this helps....Good luck


Where Thousands of Professional Land Surveyors, Students of Surveying and Educators are United through Collaborative Knowledge and Purpose.

Land Surveyors Forum

Survey Abstract Coordinates

Started by John J Rodriquez in Introduce Yourself to the Community. Last reply by Kevin D. Allen yesterday. 13 Replies

Control surveying problem

Started by shree ram bhandari in Land Surveying Jobs. Last reply by Billy Brooks yesterday. 11 Replies

Magnetic North Update

Started by Billy Brooks in Surveying Best Practices. Last reply by Billy Brooks Feb 6. 2 Replies


Started by Lalith Senanayake in Surveying Related Links. Last reply by shree ram bhandari on Tuesday. 4 Replies

Job Quotation

Started by Nitesh Shrestha in Land Surveying Jobs. Last reply by Nitesh Shrestha Jan 21. 3 Replies

Survey under tree canopy

Started by Massimo in Surveying Best Practices. Last reply by Maurice Heter yesterday. 7 Replies

Mean Sea Level (MSL)

Started by Chuck Turlington in Geospatial Industry Types. Last reply by Kim Noblitt Jan 17. 6 Replies

Surface pro

Started by Malik in Surveying Field Tips and Tricks. Last reply by Kevin D. Allen Jan 7. 5 Replies


Started by Mthulisi Mloyi in Professional Advice for New Surveyors. Last reply by ⚡Survenator⌁ Jan 4. 2 Replies

Tools,Apps and Quick Guides


Help With Survey Equipment

Social Support For Equipment

Surveying Video Categories

Surveying Photo Categories

United States Hub Forums

International Surveyor Hub Forums

Resources for Company Owners

Land Surveyor Social Media

Surveyor Resources Collections

Getting Started & Newsletter

Featured Land Surveyor Hubs

Student Surveyors

71 members

Surveyor Birthdays

Surveyor Birthdays Today

Surveyor Birthdays Tomorrow

© 2019   © Created by Land Surveyors United   Powered by

Badges  |  Contact LSU  |  Privacy Policy  |  Terms of Service

Site Explorer