Surveying Articles

I. Introduction: A Profession at War With Itself

Surveying has always been a profession that demands precision, attention to detail, and a willingness to stand your ground when the data says you’re right. After all, when it comes to boundary lines, inches matter, and there’s no prize for being close enough. But somewhere along the way, that necessary professional skepticism—the instinct to double-check, to challenge assumptions—turned inward. Instead of fighting for the integrity of the craft, surveyors started fighting each other.

Spend a day inside any online surveying group—whether on Facebook, LinkedIn, or some crowded forum—and you’ll see it firsthand. A young surveyor posts a question. Maybe it’s about GPS drift. Maybe it’s about interpreting a confusing easement. Maybe they’re new, or maybe they’re just trying to learn. The first answer is helpful. The second is condescending. By the fifth reply, someone’s insulting someone else’s competence, regional knowledge, or accusing them of "not being a real surveyor."

It’s not just online. Field crews argue. Firms compete, not just for clients but for superiority. Veteran surveyors grumble that the next generation "doesn’t want to learn." Younger professionals whisper that “the old guard just wants to keep us ignorant.” The result? A craft that once prided itself on mentorship and precision is fragmenting under the weight of its own ego.

And it’s happening at the worst possible time.

Surveying is facing an existential crisis: AI companies are scraping our expertise to automate us out of relevance. NOAA is on the chopping block, threatening the backbone of every GPS measurement we take. Deregulation efforts are undermining licensure, paving the way for anyone with a drone and an app to call themselves a surveyor. The real threats are out there—but too often, the profession is too busy arguing with itself to notice.

The saddest part? So much of the conflict comes down to misunderstanding and the failure to recognize that difference of opinion doesn’t equal incompetence. What’s normal in Florida might be illegal in California. What one surveyor shrugs off as “common sense” could be a serious liability issue somewhere else. But instead of seeking understanding, the conversation turns personal—and once that happens, no one learns anything.

What’s getting lost is the bigger picture: if surveyors can’t talk to each other—can’t teach, debate, and share without tearing each other down—then the profession can’t survive. Knowledge stops flowing. Younger surveyors stop asking questions. Veterans stop sharing their hard-earned wisdom. And the profession fractures—just in time for the tech companies and deregulators to pick off the pieces.

This article isn’t about calling anyone out. It’s about calling the profession back—to the respect, the rigor, and the big-picture thinking that once made surveying a craft worth defending. Disagreement is healthy. Debate is necessary. But attacking each other? That’s a luxury the profession can no longer afford.

If we want surveying to survive the coming storm, we have to start acting like we’re all on the same side. Because we are.

II. The Communication Breakdown: Why Are Surveyors Turning on Each Other?

To understand how surveying—a profession built on logic, discipline, and exactitude—has found itself caught in cycles of personal attacks and infighting, we have to look at what’s changed over the past two decades. Once, surveyors learned face-to-face, in apprenticeships, on job sites, or through slow, deliberate engagement with mentors and books. Disagreements still happened, of course. They were inevitable. But they were worked out over maps and field notes, in conversations where tone, context, and shared professional stakes mattered.

Today, much of that has been replaced by online platforms designed not for professional discourse but for engagement—and engagement thrives on conflict. Social media algorithms reward the most reactive, not the most thoughtful, responses. A sharp-tongued takedown gets far more attention than a carefully worded explanation. As a result, it’s easier than ever for a technical disagreement to spiral into personal attacks, especially when people from different states, backgrounds, and specialties collide in the same digital space without common ground.

Add to that the natural pride that comes with years in the profession—and suddenly, every question sounds like a challenge, every new method feels like a threat, and every "opinion" becomes a line in the sand. Surveyors aren’t just debating technique—they’re defending their careers, their licenses, and their professional identities.

Generational divides only make it worse. Veteran surveyors, hardened by decades of fieldwork, see newer professionals leaning heavily on software and tech and assume it’s laziness—a desire for shortcuts instead of mastery. Meanwhile, younger surveyors see an older generation that hoards knowledge, unwilling to explain the "why" behind long-held methods, treating curiosity as disrespect. The result? Mutual resentment—and silence where there should be mentorship.

And in that silence, something dangerous takes root: surveyors stop asking questions. Fear of being humiliated, mocked, or told they’re "not a real surveyor" kills curiosity. No one wants to be the target of a 50-comment thread questioning their intelligence. No one wants their attempt to learn to turn into a public shaming. So fewer questions get asked. Fewer mistakes get corrected before they hit the field. And fewer young surveyors stick around long enough to become the mentors the profession desperately needs.

Meanwhile, the bigger picture gets lost. The profession’s energy—energy that should be spent fighting deregulation, defending licensure, educating clients about the dangers of AI-driven mapping—is wasted on ego battles. We attack each other because that’s what social media has trained us to do, all while the real existential threats to surveying continue gathering strength, unnoticed and unchallenged.

If you step back, it’s easy to see how absurd this is. The war is not between surveyors. It’s between a profession that knows the land and corporations that want to automate that knowledge away. It’s between truth and convenience, between human expertise and algorithmic guesses. Yet we’re too busy scoring points off each other to see the battlefield shifting under our feet.

The profession doesn’t have time for this anymore. The communication breakdown isn’t just frustrating—it’s fatal. Either we fix it now, or we hand the future of surveying over to people who’ve never set foot on a job site.

III. What’s at Stake: The Knowledge Gap Grows Wider

The cracks in how surveyors communicate aren’t just bruising egos—they’re creating a far more dangerous problem: a growing knowledge gap that threatens the very survival of the profession. Every time a young surveyor hesitates to ask a question, every time a seasoned veteran stops sharing because "no one listens anymore," the distance between generations grows. What was once a craft passed down through mentorship and apprenticeship is slowly turning into a fractured industry where expertise dies with the individual.

Surveying, by its nature, is a cumulative profession. No one surveyor knows everything, because no one can. The job pulls together knowledge of history, law, geometry, technology, environmental science, and local nuance. In the past, younger surveyors learned by absorbing not just how something was done, but why. Why that boundary decision mattered. Why that obscure legal precedent changed how corners are set. Why the difference between two tenths of a foot could be the difference between a landowner keeping their house or losing it.

But that kind of teaching requires patience, respect, and an environment where questions aren’t punished. Increasingly, that environment is hard to find. Social media—where many surveyors now gather—rewards snark over nuance, certainty over curiosity. The result is that many surveyors stop asking. They figure it’s safer to stay quiet, bluff their way through, or rely on the software—let the AI fill the gaps, rather than risk being called out by a stranger online.

And that’s where the knowledge gap becomes an existential threat. Because the next generation of surveyors isn’t learning the critical thinking required to navigate the gray areas of this profession—the places where judgment matters more than math. They’re learning that if the software says it’s right, it must be right—a dangerous lesson in a field where context is everything and no two jobs are the same.

Meanwhile, seasoned professionals are watching this happen and, in many cases, choosing to disengage rather than mentor. Some feel burned by online arguments. Others are exhausted by what they see as disrespect or arrogance from younger surveyors. Others simply think, "Why bother? No one’s listening." So they stop sharing. Their knowledge—built over decades in the field—starts to die with them.

It’s happening at the exact moment the profession can least afford it. The threats are not theoretical. Big Tech is building AI models designed to replace surveyors (as we covered in “The Commodification of Surveying Expertise”). NOAA’s funding is under threat (see “NOAA and the Coming Accuracy Crisis”), which could make precision mapping a luxury. Licensure is being undermined (read “Licensure Under Siege”), threatening the very idea that surveying is a protected profession.

If the knowledge isn’t passed down now, it may never be. Future surveyors won’t just lack skills—they’ll lack the understanding of why those skills mattered in the first place. They’ll trust AI over instinct, the app over the deed book, the shortcut over the survey.

The question isn’t just whether the next generation can be trained. It’s whether there will even be a next generation—because a profession that forgets how to teach itself doesn’t survive. It fades. And when the last surveyor who remembers why we do things the way we do retires, the profession becomes just another algorithmic service—soulless, contextless, and ready to be swallowed by the very forces we should have been fighting all along.

IV. The Danger of Missing the Bigger Picture

The most dangerous thing about surveyors turning on one another isn’t just the bruised egos or missed learning opportunities—it’s how much time and energy gets wasted while the profession’s real enemies gather strength. Every argument over whether one state’s practice is "the right way" or who’s "doing it wrong" is time not spent defending surveying from the very forces trying to dismantle it.

Because while surveyors bicker over methods, Big Tech is busy scraping geospatial data, building AI models designed to automate what surveyors do best—apply judgment to complex, real-world situations. The same threads where surveyors argue about best practices are being scraped, categorized, and fed into machine learning systems. Those AI tools, trained on decades of hard-earned professional knowledge, won’t care who was "right" in the thread. They’ll be sold back to developers, municipalities, and clients as "smarter, cheaper, faster" replacements for human expertise.

The profession is too distracted to fight back.

• NOAA’s funding is threatened, and with it, the backbone of our GPS systems, mapping standards, and floodplain data. But how many surveyors are writing letters, organizing campaigns, or showing up in legislative hearings?
• Licensure battles are raging, especially in states where deregulation advocates are lobbying hard to remove professional requirements. Yet many surveyors are too busy fighting turf wars online to show up where it counts.

Instead of uniting to protect the very systems that make the profession possible, surveyors are locked in petty fights about drone brands, software choices, or regional quirks. Meanwhile, legislators, developers, and tech companies assume surveyors are too fractured to push back. And so far? They’re not wrong.

It’s not just social media driving this tunnel vision. There’s a deep cultural issue at play—a professional pride that sometimes gets weaponized. Many surveyors were trained to believe their way is the right way because it worked—in their state, on their soil, under their set of regulations. But that local expertise can become a blindfold when it’s assumed the rest of the country—or the world—works the same way.

What one surveyor sees as “nitpicking,” another knows could lead to a $2 million boundary dispute. What’s shrugged off as “just a local quirk” might be federal law somewhere else. But instead of pausing to understand each other’s perspectives, too many conversations default to defensiveness and dismissal.

And while that’s happening, the ground is literally shifting beneath the profession. Environmental changes are altering coastlines and riverbeds, raising new legal and technical challenges. Urban development is accelerating, complicating boundary determinations. Public trust in expertise is eroding, as more people think Google Maps is "close enough" and drones can do everything a licensed surveyor does.

The danger isn’t that surveyors disagree—it’s that they’re so busy disagreeing they’re missing the real fight. The fight to protect NOAA. The fight to defend licensure. The fight to ensure that surveying remains a profession, not just a line item on some software company’s product roadmap.

The bigger picture is this: Surveying is being targeted by forces that don’t care about your opinions, your methods, or your decades in the field. They care about replacing you—quietly, efficiently, and permanently. And unless the profession learns to set aside the internal battles long enough to see that, it won’t be a disagreement that kills surveying.

It’ll be apathy.

V. Opinion vs. Fact: Why Professional Debate is Healthy—Until It’s Not

At its best, surveying is a profession of rigorous debate. Two surveyors can look at the same deed, the same plat, the same pile of dirt—and come to different conclusions. That’s not a flaw. It’s what makes the profession robust. Disagreement forces better research, double-checking, and ultimately, better results for the public. But somewhere along the way, the profession started confusing professional debate with personal attack, and that distinction is tearing at the craft’s foundation.

Surveying sits in the messy middle ground between science and art. There are hard facts—physical measurements, mathematical calculations, legal descriptions carved in stone (or at least etched in the county archives). But there are also judgments—interpretations of ambiguous records, assessments of boundary intent, practical decisions made when the world refuses to line up with the math. And in that space, opinions form. Reasonable professionals will disagree. In fact, they should.

The problem is that surveyors have stopped treating opinions as just that—opinions. Instead, any difference in method, interpretation, or even workflow gets treated as a personal affront. "That’s not how we do it here," becomes "You’re wrong." "That method wouldn’t fly in my state," turns into "You don’t know what you’re talking about." Before long, a conversation that could have enriched both parties turns into a pissing contest no one wins.

Take something as simple as corner recovery. In one state, recovering a missing corner might require a full boundary retrace. In another, a few witness points and a deed check will suffice. Neither surveyor is necessarily wrong—but both are working from different legal frameworks, different historical precedents, different professional norms. Instead of explaining those contexts, many jump straight to dismissing the other. And in doing so, they miss a chance to learn something new—or teach something critical.

The bigger problem? When younger surveyors watch this happen, they learn the wrong lesson. They learn that disagreement is dangerous—that asking questions or offering a different approach will get them slapped down, not lifted up. So, they stop engaging. They stop thinking critically. They start assuming that the loudest voice is always right—or worse, that the best way to survive is to stay silent and let the software make the call.

That’s how you lose a profession. Not because people don’t know how to survey—but because they stop learning how to think like a surveyor.

This is especially dangerous now, as AI creeps further into the industry. Algorithms aren’t designed to debate. They don’t care about judgment, nuance, or intent. They care about probability, patterns, and efficiency. If surveyors forget how to argue productively, how to explain why context matters, they will be replaced by tools that don’t know the difference between a fence line and a property line—and don’t care.

Professional debate is necessary. It’s how the craft stays sharp, how the next generation learns, how the profession adapts. But debate becomes deadly when it turns personal—when facts and opinions are blurred, and every disagreement becomes a chance to attack instead of an opportunity to teach.

Surveyors need to remember that "different" isn’t the same as "wrong." A difference in method is often a doorway to a bigger conversation, not a verdict on someone’s professionalism. If the industry can reclaim that mindset, it can survive. If it can’t, it’ll collapse into regional fiefdoms—each certain it’s right, all equally doomed.

VI. Reclaiming the Craft: Building a Culture of Mentorship, Not Mistrust

If there’s a way forward for the surveying profession—and there is—it starts with reclaiming what made this craft durable for centuries: mentorship, mutual respect, and the understanding that no one surveyor knows it all. Surveying has always been an intergenerational profession. Knowledge was passed down from mentor to apprentice, crew chief to rodman, firm owner to eager intern. Those relationships weren’t always easy, but they were built on a shared understanding: this profession only survives if we teach each other.

Today, that chain is breaking. And it’s not because young surveyors don’t care or because veterans don’t want to teach. It’s because the culture of the profession is shifting toward mistrust, defensiveness, and isolation—fed by social media’s worst instincts and an industry increasingly fragmented by technological change.

The sad truth is that many seasoned surveyors feel like no one’s listening anymore. They’ve been burned in online forums, mocked for sharing "old-school" methods, or simply dismissed by younger surveyors convinced that software knows better. So, they stop talking. They stop mentoring. They stop passing down the stories, the lessons, the context that no textbook or AI model can replicate.

At the same time, younger surveyors are afraid to ask questions. They watch how the profession eats its own online—how a simple question about coordinate systems or plat standards can turn into a 100-comment flame war—and they think, “Better to stay quiet than get shredded.”

The result? A silent profession. Knowledge dries up. Expertise becomes hoarded or lost. And into that vacuum steps AI, automation, and Big Tech—ready to "solve" the knowledge gap by eliminating it altogether. Why train a new generation of surveyors when you can build an algorithm instead?

That’s why rebuilding a culture of mentorship isn’t just nice—it’s survival. The profession has to make it safe to ask questions again, safe to teach without condescension, and safe to disagree without turning disagreement into disrespect. And that means creating spaces designed for exactly that purpose.

Land Surveyors United’s LEARN platform is one of those spaces—a place where knowledge isn’t just shared but archived, structured, and built for future generations. Unlike Facebook groups or algorithm-driven forums, LEARN exists to protect the profession’s collective memory. Surveyors can create courses, share field knowledge, and get compensated for teaching—turning mentorship from a thankless task into a professional asset.

But it’s going to take more than a platform. It’s going to take a shift in mindset. Veterans need to see mentorship not as charity, but as insurance for the profession’s future. Every hour spent teaching a younger surveyor how to read an ambiguous deed or recognize a fraudulent corner is an hour invested in keeping surveying human, not automated.

Younger surveyors, in turn, need to ask—loudly, persistently, and without apology. They need to treat every interaction with an experienced professional as a chance to fill the knowledge gap—not just with technical skills but with the judgment and instinct that no AI will ever learn.

Most importantly, the profession needs to stop mistaking gatekeeping for professionalism. Keeping others out doesn’t protect surveying. It weakens it. The only way forward is together—with the hard conversations, the clashing opinions, the patient teaching—and the shared understanding that the craft survives because we pass it on.

VII. Practical Solutions: How the Profession Can Change Its Communication Culture

The challenges facing surveying aren’t theoretical. They’re happening now, in real time, and the profession can’t afford to let internal divisions widen while the outside world pushes to dismantle what surveyors have built. The good news? This is fixable. But it requires intentional change—starting with how surveyors communicate, share, and disagree.

Step one: Establish a Professional Code of Communication—online and off.
The same way surveyors follow standards of practice in the field, there needs to be a set of community norms for professional dialogue. Respect first. Attack the argument, never the person. No mocking. No shaming for asking questions. It’s simple, but transformative. Imagine an online group where every member agrees that mentorship, not ego, is the priority.

State boards and professional organizations should take the lead here—publishing communication guidelines, moderating forums, and making it clear that the profession doesn’t just value technical excellence but professional courtesy. Teaching respect needs to be as baked-in as teaching traverses and closures.

Step two: Reward knowledge-sharing, not just technical victories.
Right now, the industry celebrates the "fixers"—the surveyor who swoops in and solves the boundary dispute or nails the courthouse research no one else could. And that’s good. But what’s missing is recognition for the teachers, the mentors who help the next surveyor avoid the problem in the first place.

Associations, forums, and even firms need to profile and reward surveyors who invest in others. Spotlight the veteran who mentors apprentices. Publish the workflows and lessons learned from decades of mistakes. Normalize the idea that sharing knowledge is just as important as showing off what you know.

Step three: Create space for generational knowledge transfer—outside of social media’s chaos.
As we’ve argued in “The Digital Dustbin”, Facebook and other platforms are not designed for long-term knowledge preservation. It’s time for the profession to stop pretending otherwise.

• Use platforms like Land Surveyors United and LEARN, where threads, lessons, and resources are stored, searchable, and owned by the profession—not scraped by AI companies.
• Encourage firms to build internal knowledge bases—digital archives of workflows, case studies, and equipment hacks that younger surveyors can access.
• Host cross-generational webinars and roundtables where no question is off-limits and the goal is understanding, not one-upmanship.

Step four: Draw clear lines between opinion and standards.
One of the biggest communication failures is the blurring of "this is my opinion" and "this is legal fact." Survey forums and groups should have dedicated zones:

• “Opinion Zone” for debates, sharing local methods, and swapping stories.
• “Standards Zone” where only citations, laws, and verified best practices live.

This structure prevents fights while educating everyone on the difference between regional quirks and universal truths—something many heated arguments fail to recognize.

Step five: Advocate for mentorship funding and knowledge preservation initiatives.
It’s time for surveying associations to put their money where their mission statements are. Fund programs that pay experienced surveyors to mentor, teach, and document their knowledge. Create grants for capturing historic surveying practices before the last generation who remembers them retires.

If surveyors want a future, they have to build it. Not just by setting monuments in the ground, but by creating a professional culture where communication is constructive, debate is educational, and knowledge flows freely across generations.

Because if the profession can’t fix how it talks to itself, it won’t be able to speak loud enough to fight for its survival.

VIII. Conclusion: The Fight Is Out There, Not Among Ourselves

Surveyors have always known how to fight—but somewhere along the way, we started fighting the wrong battles. We turned our sharpest tools—the demand for accuracy, the instinct to challenge bad data, the refusal to accept sloppy work—on each other instead of the forces actually threatening our profession. That has to stop.

Because while surveyors trade barbs online about workflows, coordinate systems, or “how we do it in my state,” the real fights are going unwaged. AI companies are quietly scraping our knowledge, feeding it into systems designed to replace us. NOAA—the very backbone of our geospatial infrastructure—is underfunded and at risk. Deregulation campaigns are working overtime to convince the public that surveying doesn’t require a license or even a human anymore. And as all of that accelerates, the profession’s collective response is… another meme, another argument in a Facebook group, another apprentice who walks away thinking, “This isn’t worth it.”

It’s time to wake up. The future of surveying won’t be lost because we failed to measure accurately. It’ll be lost because we failed to build a culture that teaches, supports, and defends itself. We’ll lose not to bad data, but to bad communication. Not because the next generation can’t survey, but because we made them too afraid to ask.

Surveying is facing an existential moment. And it’s not just about technology. It’s about us. Whether we rise to meet this moment depends on whether we finally realize: we are not the enemy. The enemy is out there—pushing deregulation, building AI models with our knowledge, selling "surveyor-in-a-box" tech to clients who don’t know any better.

Inside the profession, we need disagreement. We need debate. We need younger surveyors questioning old methods—and veterans explaining why some things are done the way they are. But we don’t need another generation learning that the cost of asking a question is public ridicule. We don’t need another knowledge gap because no one wanted to speak up.

Land Surveyors United, LEARN, mentorship programs—all of these exist because the profession needs to remember what real community looks like. Not an algorithm-driven cage match, but a place where people teach, argue, learn, and preserve the craft together.

The message is simple: We fix the culture, or we lose the craft. We build spaces that reward curiosity and respect—or we get replaced by systems that don’t care about either. Because when the last licensed surveyor logs off, those AI tools and deregulators aren’t going to argue over easements or explain why a corner really matters—they’re just going to cash the check.

The fight is out there. Not among ourselves.

Let’s start acting like it.