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Changing angles ????

Started this discussion. Last reply by Roy Daniel Oct 21, 2014. 7 Replies

Hi,In 1959 a government agency bought some land and their take line was described as N 73 deg. 33 min. 40 sec. E for 682.84 feet.  The adjacent land was sold in 1984 and this same line was expressed…Read more →

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Oct 27, 2014
Roy Daniel replied to Roy Daniel's discussion Changing angles ????
"I agree with you and have argued with several surveyors over their opinion as to surveying.  I am still learning and studying everyday but even at my level of training in surveying I can see how wrong they are.  The ones who argue with me…"
Oct 21, 2014
Deward Karl Bowles replied to Roy Daniel's discussion Changing angles ????
"Mr. Daniel the bearings are only relative to each other that is their basis of bearing I am asking about. I do not agree with the a Surveyors who are telling you to turn an angle in that general direction and then accept whatever you find. This is…"
Oct 20, 2014
Roy Daniel replied to Roy Daniel's discussion Changing angles ????
"What reference would you use to verify that?  Several surveyors say that the description on a legal land description doesn't really mean much as you do not know what basis for the angles was used.  Most just shoot in the general…"
Oct 18, 2014
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Oct 16, 2014
Scott D. Warner, PLS replied to Roy Daniel's discussion Changing angles ????
"Are the interior angles the same?"
Oct 14, 2014
Deward Karl Bowles replied to Roy Daniel's discussion Changing angles ????
"Not necessarily because once again they could be in a different bearing basis. If you can post the two descriptions I may be able to tell you if they agree or not. Again whithout additional information there is no way to know."
Oct 12, 2014
Roy Daniel replied to Roy Daniel's discussion Changing angles ????
"Thanks for your reply and I would agree if both calls ended at the same place.  In this case there are two different ending places which would result in the owner either having more land than he thought or less land than he thought.  Also,…"
Oct 12, 2014
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Oct 11, 2014
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Changing angles ????

Hi,In 1959 a government agency bought some land and their take line was described as N 73 deg. 33 min. 40 sec. E for 682.84 feet.  The adjacent land was sold in 1984 and this same line was expressed as N 76 deg. 34 min. 56 sec. E for 682.8 feet.  How can this be the same line and the government did not buy any more land so wouldn't the original angle prevail?  In 1959 magnetic declination was 8.8 deg. E and was 6.4 deg. E in 1984. Could this error be due not using the same bearing basis?  Both…See More
Oct 11, 2014
Deward Karl Bowles replied to Roy Daniel's discussion Changing angles ????
"A single bearing alone does not describe an angle. It is possible that the same line was described by two different surveys that were not in the same bearing basis. It is quite possible there in no discrepancy between the two descriptions of this…"
Oct 11, 2014
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Changing angles ????

Hi,In 1959 a government agency bought some land and their take line was described as N 73 deg. 33 min. 40 sec. E for 682.84 feet.  The adjacent land was sold in 1984 and this same line was expressed as N 76 deg. 34 min. 56 sec. E for 682.8 feet.  How can this be the same line and the government did not buy any more land so wouldn't the original angle prevail?  In 1959 magnetic declination was 8.8 deg. E and was 6.4 deg. E in 1984. Could this error be due not using the same bearing basis?  Both…See More
Oct 9, 2014
Roy Daniel replied to Roy Daniel's discussion Sokkisha (Sokkia) TM-20C in the group Sokkia Support Group
"Thanks and as soon as it arrives I will post pics as you suggested."
Jun 7, 2014
Jaybird replied to Roy Daniel's discussion Sokkisha (Sokkia) TM-20C in the group Sokkia Support Group
"My dad has one of these... cool instrument.. maybe you can upload some photos and show the rest of the members what it looks like...attached is a guide from USGS which may offer some help...ill look for the manual i found years ago.."
Jun 7, 2014
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Hi all,I have started buying old theodolites and transits to compare what there is now with what was used back then. My last purchase was a Sokkisha TM-20C and I can't find a manual anywhere. Can anyone help?  This old unit works very weel but a manual would be icing on the cake. Remember, the Sin of nothing is nothing.Thanks,RoySee More
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Sokkia Support Group is for discussions and tutorials related  to surveyors who use Sokkia in the field. If you are new to the Sokkia Support Group for Land Surveyors, please start by adding a discussion and introducing yourself to the community! LSU is not directly affiliated with Sokkia and all logos and imagery are…See More
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