There is a lawsuit in the news that should be of interest to all of us. This is not a boundary issue so much is it is an ethics issue. If you read this story carefully you will find that the plaintiff contends  "In the process of drafting engineer plans, the city used a land surveying firm also used by Camardo for work related to the Kalet wall. The lawsuit claims the city knowingly used privileged information from the firm to draft its plans."


There are other interesting tidbits in this news story about a boundary issue also. The plaintiff contends "The city is attempting to claim 1.9 feet of a storage room on his property that shares a wall with the Kalet building. According to the lawsuit, the storage room needs the Kalet wall for support." The plaintiff seeks "judgments that will establish the boundary line between the Kalet’s wall and his storage room, and will bar the city from placing any structures or makers on the Camardo property and the right-of-way."


Several things spring to my mind reading this story. It would appear that the Land Surveyor (or at least the same firm) in this case retraced the boundary for both land owners.  It would also appear that the Land Surveyor has shared information on one client with the other (this is the allegation). Apparently there is a common wall and this wall is part of a wall that is a storage room for one of the properties. Further this wall is encroaching over the boundary some 1.9 feet.


While times may be tough and there is certainly nothing wrong with surveying a property adjoining a property you have already surveyed, in this case it may have been a mistake. The problem is a perceived ethical conflict on the part of the Land Surveyor by the concerned parties. The presumption that the Land Surveyor is a disinterested third party evaporates under these circumstances. The problem with ethics is that it is not simply your beliefs as to what is ethical or not, it is what other people perceive as ethical.


This Content Originally Published by a land surveyor to Land Surveyors United Network

Views: 615

See Your Saved Posts Timeline

Replies to This Discussion

"The problem with ethics is that it is not simply your beliefs as to what is ethical or not, it is what other people perceive as ethical"

Karl....I couldn't agree more; and off the top of my head cannot think of another profession that has such a strong need for complete ethics; integrity; merit and truth. When working on the simplest of issues I still keep in mind (I'm already the bad guy to the adjoiner; if my computatiions or findings show a line not in there favor) always a good idea to keep that one playing card that makes everyone have a v8 moment and understand.

I don't understand why there is a problem with "the privelidged information".........kind of puts a new take on that playing card if they didn't do any further research than what was on a set of plans.

I bet there's 2 monuments 1.9 feet apart or so near the disputed line. I wish I lived closer id take the schoenstedt and sbovel for a look....(yes I'm not working and I'm passionate about my
I wanted to brag about posting these comments from my cell phone with ease... the site actually seems faster on the mobile version...... and posted to facebook and twitter!

the mobile version is faster...and the desktop version is getting better and better


Where Thousands of Professional Land Surveyors, Students of Surveying and Educators are United through Collaborative Knowledge and Purpose.

Land Surveyor Forum - Community Discussions

Discontinuing an easement

Started by Charles R. Hampton. Last reply by J. Anthony Cavell Jan 25, 2016. 2 Replies

Latin term "et mar" in legal description

Started by Paul Quagge. Last reply by Paul Quagge Sep 22, 2012. 12 Replies

Wisconsin Adminstrative Code AE-7

Started by Dean Brian Teska Jr.. Last reply by Scott D. Warner, PLS May 21, 2012. 1 Reply

Land Surveying Law and Thomas M. Cooley

Started by Scott D. Warner, PLS May 15, 2011. 0 Replies

Ethics and The City Land Surveyor

Started by Deward Karl Bowles. Last reply by ePalmetto Jul 5, 2012. 3 Replies

CA State Law

Started by Rich Maher Dec 12, 2010. 0 Replies

Tools,Apps and Quick Guides


Help With Survey Equipment

Social Support For Equipment

Surveying Video Categories

Surveying Photo Categories

United States Hub Forums

International Surveyor Hub Forums

Resources for Company Owners

Land Surveyor Social Media

Surveyor Resources Collections

Getting Started & Newsletter

Featured Land Surveyor Hubs

Surveyor Birthdays

© 2019   © Created by Land Surveyors United   Powered by

Badges  |  Contact LSU  |  Privacy Policy  |  Terms of Service

Site Explorer